HarryWyckoff 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Really, how backwards is the VMAB being here.
They've had years to step up and help with the nation's Potcake problem, and have failed miserably.
Now they are refusing to allow vets VOLUNTEERING from overseas to enter the country to help deal with the problem.
And why? Because somehow, they think these stray potcakes should all be paying $50 each.
I guess the VMAB isn't quite smart enough to realise that STRAY dogs don't have owners. Or bank accounts. or $50 in cash between their paws.
Protectionist fools who put profit before betterment of the country.
They are a disgrace.
Jack 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Bizzell. If you're not making any money they why are you trying to stop others from coming in?? If you were so sure that you're just breaking even then it would make much more sense for you to just let the other vets come and do the full 5 days while you guys get on with your precious practices.
You've never supported this project, you sure as hell don't care about animals, only turning a profit. Bahamian vets doing something for free, don't make me laugh.
JackG 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
If you really do pro bono spay and neuter why do you need $50 per dog? Perhaps you need to look up what pro bono really means. Just saying.....
ETJ 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Pro bono means FREE, not $50 per. Wonderful that you did over 7000 surgeries ($350,000!) but...then why is there still such a problem? Obviously because that was not nearly enough. And again what is the plan by the VMAB to actually solve this problem instead of continuing to do a trickle to be paid for by struggling humane societies and rescues, and to stop efforts that might actually have a meaningful impact in a shorter period of time?
What do you mean by ineffective canine control programs? If you are implying that more animals need to be killed you are so woefully behind the times it's not even funny. Please do your homework on EFFECTIVE and HUMANE solutions to pet over population problems. If you are advocating catching and killing more animals, that does not speak well of you as a veterinary professional. Not in 2013. It has not been recognized as an effective method of animal control, for many many years now.
Local vets have agreed to this providing their expenses are paid??? Why should animal welfare orgs be held hostage like this if there are people willing to come in here and do more in a shorter time frame than local vets are able to do? There is no shame in that, but there is shame in local vets stopping such efforts without a comparable effort being made and maybe just maybe a little TRUE pro bono, i.e. FREE, work being donated. You are not helping the reputation and public opinion of local vets with posts such as this. People are disgusted and frustrated and your reasoning is irrational and defensive. Not one iota of concern for the helpless animals. THIS is the problem, and the disconnect that the VMAB caused with that highly offensive letter, absolutely needs to be rectified if they hope to salvage any public support at all. You cannot beat reasonable, ordinary, caring people over the head and expect them to capitulate to unreasonable and ineffective demands. Being negative and defensive only makes you look worse. If indeed the VMAB is committed to dealing with this problem, then surely face to face meetings would have been preferable to that awful negative letter; and waiting til almost the 11th hour before Operation Potcake was to commence has not helped.
christinasmith 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
yes, they are a disgrace, but our mealy mouthed Prime Minister is even more of a disgrace, he can easily overide the Bahamian Vets by immediately agreeing to issue permits to bring in the voluteer vets It's a no brainer.
FamilyIslandMan123 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
This was a good thing, a simple thing. People coming from all over to help our Potcakes, educate our children and support our Bahamaland. Sad that sick, selfish, money hungry fools can hurt us all this way. It's just sad. Please let us know if we can help in some other way.
FamilyIslandMan123 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Rant, perhaps. Ill-informed, let's see:
- Did the VMAB block foreign vets and volunteers from entering the Bahamas for this event? (By the way Peter, did you consider how this influx of 100's of volunteers helps the rest of the us because they use our shops, ride in our taxis and eat in our restaurants?)
- Did you then propose to hold the event but for less days (even though admitting it would be less successful)?
- Finally, since you blocked the free outside help from coming in and then shortened the program, did you then propose to charge $50 a procedure.
Does not 1+ 2 + 3 = a vastly lower amount of dogs being treated at a vastly higher cost + a much reduced outreach/educational program because of the reduction of volunteers?
Would it not have been more beneficial to the animals and the community to not block the foreign vets and volunteers from coming in? Then the local vets who wanted to participate could do so and those who found the terms too onerous could decline from participating?
Peter - I am listening, please advise what part of that is ill-informed.
JackG 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
If the foreign Vets are willing to d it for free and cover their own material costs where do you come up with $50 per do? Be better if you just go back to England where perhaps you belong.
ETJ 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
The rest of who??? People who had nothing to do with this problem's proliferation to begin with? Wow. This just goes to show why the letter from the VMAB is receiving such negative attention.
ivyelden 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
And where do they think the people who "own" these animals are going to get $50? These animals would never, ever see vet for any reason, due to their "owners" inability or unwillingness to pay....ergo, would it not make perfect sense to spay/neuter them for free so that they are at least not reproducing endlessly? And the local vets are not the slightest bit interested in doing this, so if we have volunteers willing to come to our country and take their precious time to help alleviate our stray dog problem (which, by the way, affects our tourist industry negatively), why not welcome them with open arms???? Other Caribbean countries are certainly taking advantage of their generosity! This is a no-brainer!
JackG 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
NO.
Jack 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
Operation Potcake has been cancelled following opposition from local vets. How do you think the spay and neuter programme should be run?
To be honest I've never been to a country, and I've lived in several, where I have to question the vets as much as I do here. The average animal lover in the Bahamas seems to have a better idea than you lot on the whole. You don't get respect because you don't deserve it as a group and this whole fiasco just proves the point.
ADubbs 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
I see a lot of ridiculous things in the news, but this... This is just... Who ARE these morons? Why would they stop volunteers from coming in to help take care of this problem? They suddenly want to do it themselves? And want to be PAID?! Get the hell out of here! The next person to suffer an attack should be one of those idiots.
ThisIsOurs 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
I don't get it...there's a huge stray cat/dog problem in the country. I haven't noticed it getting any better. Someone comes in to help and all of a sudden "the Bahamians can do a better job"? Why weren't they doing it all along? Maybe everyone can't pay $50 to spay their animal, are the local vets prepared to go in the communities where the problem is and offer their services for free, not just a token showing but a real effort country wide?
Jack 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
You think you vets are the only ones giving up your practices??? Almost ALL the foreign vets gave up their practices for TWO WEEKS this year. Most of the volunteers gave up their full two weeks of holiday a year, some volunteers suffered business losses to help the animals and improve the Bahamas, so don't start about being patriotic . Not many Bahamian vets did the same may I add, one or two days here or there. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves!! You're a lunatic if you think we believe your B.S. Bizzell.
ohdrap4 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
they are not morons, but vets are generally disdainful of the BHS
there are horrendous problems of stray cats and dogs in eleuthera and abaco and grand bahama, move operation potcake there
Right242 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
You're obviously one of the dumb ones. The vets are coming to the Bahamas on their own dime to help. Now you want more from VOLUNTEERS. Open your damn eyes!!!
RUKiddingMe 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
Once again GREED motivates the decision making process! This activity does not cost the Bahamian people one red cent! It is done out of care and concern and in fact, actually saves in the long run.
This ridiculous proposal proposal from the VMAB will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to alleviate the Potcake situation. The people who bring their dogs to these clinics would not otherwise do so. So the VMAB is not out a penny! Furthermore, those volunteers who come from away pay their own way, pay for accommodations, pay for meals and other things - in other words THEY ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY!!
Proverbs 12:10 tells us that no one should be cruel to animals. And it tells us that in the eyes of God the person that takes care to love, and fill all needs of their pets are rewarded and looked upon as righteous and good. Those that are cruel and abuse their animals will not be looked upon favourably.
banker 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
Bahamian vets to me have visibly demonstrated a lower rate of professionalism with a higher rate of hucksterism. I realise that vets have to make money, but being a vet indicates a supposed concern for animal welfare. This latest move puts all Bahamian vets on the level of hypocritical preachers who fleece the flock. The vets have demonstrated that they are not worthy to practise their profession in the Bahamas.
sdc 12 years, 2 months ago on Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
Operation Potcake cancelled after local vet opposition
so the real issue is that you want the supplies purchased from you, not donated from anywhere else? I don't see why the local vets would not want to stand beside these volunteers and double the amount of strays neutered/spayed. why are we denying help that we clearly need and is not doing anything but benefiting our country.