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Reaching immunity

EDITOR, The Tribune.

Looking at the latest Bahamian vaccination statistics, we are falling far short of herd immunity, which is also defined by the WHO as “the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection.”

If we are going to get our economy open, move from Amber to Green status, we are going to have to persuade COVID vaccine sceptics to join the club. Denigrating them, using guilt to make them vaccinate, calling them unpatriotic and coercing them won’t do it. Many do want to be their brother’s keeper, but have nagging doubts about taking the vaccines. I propose three ways to reduce vaccine hesitancy as follows:

1) There is legitimate concern about the safety of these novel vaccines. VAERS data released today by the CDC showed a total of 463,457 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 10,991 deaths and 48,385 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and July 9, 2021. Although the vaccines appear to be effective, there is still a fear that they can harm a small section of the population.

No preparation appears to have been made by our Government to assist those suffering adverse effects medically or financially as far as I know. The vaccine manufacturers have been given blanket immunity and the cost of side effects is currently borne by the user. Perhaps the Government can address this issue and assuage our fears that they will support us in the event that we are not well. It seems unfair that they are touting a product and not standing behind it. Those employers who are violating the principle of informed consent and making their employees vaccinate should also be prepared to cover the medical costs of their employees that are injured.

2) Why are we administering the vaccine to people that apparently get no benefit particularly those Bahamians who have contracted COVID and therefore have a high antibody response?

A simple test prior to vaccination would determine who has antibodies to Sars-2. Those with high antibodies could be issued with an antibody passport instead of vaccination, and form part of the herd. We know that that herd immunity can be achieved either by naturally-acquired infection or by vaccination. I am not sure why our Government is using a one pronged approach, asking everybody to be vaccinated and only allowing vaccinated persons exemptions and freedoms.

3) And finally, why are we also not using cheap repurposed retroviral drugs that have proven their efficacy in combatting COVID. Theresa Lawrie’s meta study on Ivermectin’s published on 17 June concludes “Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.”

Why is this treatment still being suppressed by the WHO and Public Health Authorities when its efficacy is beyond any doubt. Dr. Pierre Cory, a physician, and one of the key advocators for Ivermectin makes a compelling case for its use. David Seftel’s trial with Fluvoxamine showed its efficacy too.

May I suggest our Public Health Officials read the peer reviewed science and roll out Ivermectin and or Fluvoxamine to the vaccine hesitant so that we can get more people into the herd?

If our Government and our public health officials are really concerned for our health, they must start to think outside the box, to guarantee help to those that are injured or likely to be injured, and endeavour to use all the tools, not just the experimental ones, at their disposal to bring us into the herd and make this virus extinct.

MARK PALMER

Nassau,

July 16, 2021.

Comments

JokeyJack 2 years, 9 months ago

You have pointed out some very strange things here which don't seem to go along with any plan of any sensible person wanting to contain the spread. So why then should we assume that is their goal? There is an old saying about actions speaking louder than words. Is that wisdom out of date in 2021?

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proudloudandfnm 2 years, 9 months ago

You know what actually works? And is proven to actually work?

The vaccines.

The vaccines are the only answer. No idea what Mark does for a living but obviously he's not an epidemiologist.

The vaccines work and the vaccines are safe.

Period..

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JokeyJack 2 years, 9 months ago

LOCKDOWNS LOCKDOWNS - DEATH DEATH DEATH - LOCKDOWNS LOCKDOWNS - DEATH DEATH DEATH

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proudloudandfnm 2 years, 9 months ago

And by the way ivermectin is not for viral infections, its used for parasites like lice.

Stop with the stupid "I know medicine better than scientists" nonsense...

Bout ivermectin. What is it with you stupid people and your facebook science???? Damn. Just shut up and keep your ignorant opinions to yourself....

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proudloudandfnm 2 years, 9 months ago

Tribune staff! When you get idiotic letters like this DON'T PRINT THEM!

Sheesh!

At some point you are as guilty as they are of spreading idiocy.

Bout ivermectin. Damn man.

Why print this garbage????

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joeblow 2 years, 9 months ago

... every time I see one of your posts I cringe and wonder why there isn't a downvote button!

The CDC reports more than 6200 deaths after administration of the COVID vaccine https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-...">https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-...

NIH showed people infected with COVID can have lasting immunity (and therefore may not need vaccination) https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-r...">https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-r...

Several democrats in the Biden administration who were vaccinated are COVID positive https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/...">https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/...

The vaccinated can get COVID! https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-...">https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-...

Most of what you print is regurgitated propaganda believed to be fact!

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Bobsyeruncle 2 years, 9 months ago

The CDC reports more than 6200 deaths after administration of the COVID vaccine

From the link you provided. Maybe you should actually read it instead of regurgitating what you want it to say - During this time, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem.

NIH showed people infected with COVID can have lasting immunity (and therefore may not need vaccination)

Agreed. The key word here is "Can"

*Several democrats in the Biden administration who were vaccinated are COVID positive

The vaccinated can get COVID!*

No-one ever said you can't get COVID after being vaccinated. The PRIMARY purpose of the vaccine is to reduce the severity of the symptoms if you do get it, so as to keep you out of hospital and not over-burden the healthcare systems.

Sheesh, maybe you should listen to your own advice.

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GodSpeed 2 years, 9 months ago

Don't care, never taking the bioweapon 💉☣

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Bobsyeruncle 2 years, 9 months ago

Mark

  1. The VAERS database is not a controlled/regulated database. Anyone, including me, you or your pet dog can record something on there, - multiple times if you want.

  2. There's some merit to this suggestion of yours, although antibody tests are not very reliant. Also, several months after recovery the levels of antibodies in your system might not be high enough to test.

  3. Don't even go there with Ivermectin. There is so much wrong with that Tess Lawrie study in terms of design, interpretation of results, peer review, and cross-reference studies. https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevie...">https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevie...

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jammydodger 2 years, 9 months ago

For those who say Ivermectin doesn't work you need to review The Argentinian clinical study in a hospital of frontline workers (doctors and nurses) was particularly compelling. 788 who took ivermectin = 0 infections; 407 of the control group = 58% infection rate. What is there to lose? Let's just try it for God's sake. It will save lives!

https://trialsitenews.com/argentinas-...">https://trialsitenews.com/argentinas-...

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Bobsyeruncle 2 years, 9 months ago

There is so much wrong with that clinical study. Let me just highlight a couple:

  1. It's looking at Carrageenan & Ivermectin. Since it's a combo of products, how do you deduce whether Ivermectin or Carrageenan or both are responsible for results.

  2. Any study that requires patients to self administer 5 times a day in their own time, is asking for trouble. They are not in the same location/environment and therefore exposed to a whole spectrum of different factors that could protect them from the virus or expose them to it.

  3. The study was observational !!!!! This is taken from the website you provided. This study was observational, hence carries less weight of evidence as does the randomized controlled study

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