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PM calls for love between Bahamians and Haitians

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Prime Minister Dr Hubert Minnis.

PRIME Minister Dr Hubert Minnis called for love between Bahamians and Haitians as the government seeks to eradicate shanty town communities.

He was addressing the League of Haitian Pastors’ 24th Annual Crusade/Civic Night at the Church of God Auditorium on Joe Farrington Road on Thursday, May 24, 2018.

Minister of Transport and Local Government Frankie Campbell served as an interpreter.

Underscoring the strong ties between The Bahamas and Haiti, Dr Minnis addressed “misunderstandings” in the government’s dealing with issues of illegal immigration.

He said: “No matter where we hail from, we also celebrate unity in our diversity. We must be one people in love and unity.”

“I thank the League of Haitian Pastors for the work you do in our communities, including your pastoral and social ministry and outreach.

Dr Minnis urged the group to let their crusade be a time to express their love of God and love of neighbour, which God has instructed all to do.

“No matter the struggles, no matter the suffering, no matter the trials and tribulations, no matter the heartbreak, no matter the mountains to climb, we should always rely on the love and mercy of the God who sustains us in every season of life. Let us all always continue to seek God’s guidance and grace,” he said.

Dr Minnis also sought to clear up any misconceptions regarding the Government’s intentions to, over time, remove shantytowns in New Providence and Abaco.

He said the government has set up a large task force to carefully plan for the removal of shantytowns, “so that we can better assimilate the residents of these areas, and help to improve the quality of life of residents”.

Dr Minnis noted the task force includes a number of representatives of the Haitian community, including pastors with whom the government is in continuous dialogue.

“There has been a tremendous misunderstanding," he said, "by some people, of what we are trying to do.”

“Our aim is to improve the lives of all of those affected by what we are doing."

“The ties between the Bahamas and Haiti go back several centuries," he continued, "Haiti and The Bahamas are bound together by history, by geography and by family ties. So many Bahamians enjoy such family ties; this is something to be celebrated.”

He added: “We celebrate those who have contributed so much to building our Bahamas, no matter which land we originally came from.”

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John 5 years, 11 months ago

There have always been a love/hate relationship between Hait and Bahamians and in recent years this seemed to have turned into a ‘love to hate. ‘(Haitians) affair. Maybe this is sparked by the fact that many Bahamians are now catching (economic) hell and some now find themselves living on the level of the average Haitians or at the bottom of the totem pole. Or too, it may be that Bahamians have to deal with the fact that not all Haitians are scraping the bottom of the social or economic barrel and so Bahamians take offense that Haitians can come here and live better than them. Then there is the ever evolving question as to what to do with Hatians who come here illegally or with their offspring, many who were born here and have never been to Haiti or no other country. Even Minnis own government was at least appearing to be launching attacks on Haitians when their Minister of Immigration announced he was considering doubling the work permit fees for gardeners and maids. Then when the prime minister, had himself announced a deadline and told all illegals or persons without status to get it or GET OuT. Then there’s the all out assault on shantytowns and efforts to eradicate them. In all of these instances of policy making or enforcement the majority persons affected are Haitians.

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sheeprunner12 5 years, 11 months ago

You are either a Haitian OR a Bahamian ........ This half/half bullshit has to stop ....... You cannot be begging for Bahamian citizenship and then turn around and fly Haitian, Jamaican etc. flags ........ That is rubbing salt and pepper in the social wounds that we must heal ...... smh

Bahamians go to the USA and they become proud Americans with the Stars and Stripes flying on their front lawn ...... Why should we expect any different from the Haitians, Jamaicans, Dominicans, Chinese, and Filipinos who come here and want to demand to be Bahamian citizens????????

You can celebrate your "other" heritage, but you cannot be an imposter.

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John 5 years, 11 months ago

Again you demonstrate your ignorance of reality. If you go to the average college in the US that has students from The Caribbean or Africa, South America or other countries, and visit their dormitory room or the apartment where they reside, they would most likely have their country's flag or paraphilia from their country. This is especially true for athletes.

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DDK 5 years, 11 months ago

In their DORM, not all over their vehicles in their host country!

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sheeprunner12 5 years, 11 months ago

Now we know why Minnis keeps Bungling Frankie so close to him (and even in his Cabinet) ............... Campbell is his PR man for the 20,000 Haitian votes in the country.

Real full-blooded Bahamians should be offended by Creole Frankie standing up there translating for a sub-group in our society who is hell-bent on degrading our country.

Why has the inquiry into whether Creole Frankie is a bona fide true-true Bahamian not concluded, so that this alleged imposter can be relieved of membership in our Bahamian Parliament.

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Well_mudda_take_sic 5 years, 11 months ago

No Bahamian of non-Haitian heritage should ever vote for Minnis, Symonette or Campbell ever again. All three of these politicians love looking out for the interests of Haitians much more so than the interests of Bahamians. And it is our Haitian illegal immigrant problem that these three treacherous politicians refuse to address that now has most of us Bahamians living like Haitians in our own country.

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Well_mudda_take_sic 5 years, 11 months ago

Repost: But wait just a moment. Isn't Minnis proposing to soon significantly increase the salaries and benefits of parliamentarians?! Yep, Minnis is indeed a monster. He clearly believes it's the politicians' time, the illegal Haitian immigrants' time, the IMF/IDB/OECD's time, anyone and everything else's time, BUT CERTAINLY NOT the Bahamian people's time!!

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SP 5 years, 11 months ago

Haitians have no interest in assimilating to our culture, refuse to learn our language and could care less about the well being of the Bahamas. All Haitians care about is by hook or crook sending money back to Haiti to support and bring in more of their families. Haitian chain migration will destroy the Bahamas for Bahamians!

WHY are we granting citizenships to Haitians when these people have proven they do not have Bahamians best future interest at heart? The dam Haitian pastors can't even speak English.

Where are the Haitians helping the government to stop human smuggling, drug trafficking and arms running from Haiti? Bahamians invest untold millions of taxpayer dollars spent over the decades to fight these ongoing criminal activities and not one solitary Haitian or Haitian pastor granted Bahamian citizenship has ever stepped forward to expose the major players in these crimes!

Every Haitian knows the perpetrators of these vexing illegal rackets, yet NOT ONE HAITIAN or HAITIAN PASTOR has uttered a single word about who these people are to help us save our country from the operators of this Haitian invasion.

Bahamians have been helping Haitians for decades, but no one can recall a single incident of Haitians doing anything to assist the Bahamas or Bahamians!

Haitians are users, parasites, and an unwanted blight in our country that take whatever they can from the least of us to best of us. They have proven their loyalty remains with Haiti and the Haitian people. THAT will never change.

We need Haitians like needed Pindling, Ingraham and Christie!

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sheeprunner12 5 years, 11 months ago

Indeed ......... the Haitian cumulative cost to this country every year is at least $200 million through remittances, illegal immigration, policing and social welfare costs .......... and it may be more when you add in criminality.

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Aegeaon 5 years, 11 months ago

Again with these unwanted insults against Haitians. If you wanted to deport them back, just be respectful no matter what nasty things they say against you. You and Sheeprunner are stooping too low and it's making Bahamians sound unnecessarily hateful.

Calling them worthless, parasitic, blighted and all around non-human is a sign that you and other Bahamians never seen true suffering from other countries.

You keep saying that their problems can be solved if they went back and simply build up their country, except the problem is set up that Haitians won't just simply repair the nation.

They've been sabotaged by dictatorships and the French for rebelling against them. They were in poverty for nearly 150 years, with brutal deaths, wars and everything horrible. And you and Sheep have the nerve to spite them because of immigration? I understand daily struggles and the Bahamian people, but don't stoop low to some hateful Haitians. We should had been better.

Then we never had brutal wars, deaths and mass poverty for over a hundred years. We got rich and unfortunately spoiled ourselves to the core, thanks to the international illegal drug trade. Haiti or their society would had never signed onto such a thing, but poverty creates desperation.

I'm not demeaning Bahamians here. I'm just telling you people that we should always remain kind no matter how people may dislike or hate you, and the mentality shown by you reflects how ignorant we are to suffering and desperation. Be honorable in life, and grateful in death. No matter how stressed we are.

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SP 5 years, 11 months ago

Wake up, stop talking bull-shyt, and face the facts. Haitians run an entirely separate and parallel economy, engage in everything illegal, run circles around RBPF and RBDF, ignore our laws, and take away the names and birthright of Bahamians and you jackass's standing around talking dumb shyt bout "we sound hateful"?

When the hell will you fools grow some balls and stand up for Bahamians and the Bahamas? What other country allows an invading neighbor to get away this sort of nonsense? The Dominicans had to take an unpopular stand against these disgusting Haitian invaders to protect their country, why the hell can't we find the balls do the same?

Maybe AFTER the FNM tell us again we better learn Creole and we have ANOTHER Haitian prime minister and a full slate of Haitian candidates you idiots might wake up!

It will be way to late by then to try saving our country for future generations of Bahamians.

You fools better wake up!!

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Aegeaon 5 years, 11 months ago

Again you cannot grasp the reality of why these people come here. Why do YOU instead, insult them for attempting to survive in life? This is a illegal way to travel, but understand their suffering and move on. These degrading comments aren't getting anywhere anymore.

I could stand up to Bahamians, but you people need to understand humanity, not cruel acts. These insults are no way capable of solving the problem. The Dominicans wanted to do their job, but using violence and possibly murder is simply sugarcoating the issue, and making things worse by damaging their reputation. If you were PM, you can further drag this country down to Hell with no way out because of poor decision on Haitians.

This issue has no doubt upset many citizens, but don't try to resort to violence and public humiliation.

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sheeprunner12 5 years, 11 months ago

Aegenon ........ there comes a time when people of your ilk stop apologizing for Haitians, Jamaican, Filipinos, Dominican, Cubans etc. who come here and SHIT on us and take advantage of our slackness, greed, lechery, friendliness and social naivete ........ Yes, we have migrated to the USA (about 100,000), but you see us adding value to their country, not putting them in debt ...... The majority of the POOR, UNEDUCATED immigrants who come here are replacing the Bahamian "brain drain" ...... and that costs the country.

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Aegeaon 5 years, 11 months ago

Perhaps you didn't suffer as with those nationalities. Bahamians never suffered everything as with other countries, we were blessed and yet we slander Haitians and Jamaicans for simply trying to survive where their homelands failed them, you slander Americans, Chinese and Europeans for simply trying to make a honest buck. We're destroying ourselves within, and only blaming others for our downfall.

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joeblow 5 years, 11 months ago

If I state what first comes to mind when I read this ignorant statement I will violate the user agreement of this site!

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sheeprunner12 5 years, 11 months ago

Aegenon does not know Bahamian history and the 1890-20 migration to the USA ........ Bahamians were used as "slave labour" to build Miami-Dade with all of the Jim Crow laws in full effect ........ And then again on the Contract 1943-1966 ........ But we have been resilient and progressive in building our country and not destroying in civil war ourselves like the Haitians etc.

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John 5 years, 11 months ago

So what do the Greeks, Canadians, Chinese and even Americans do with their money? Don't they all send it back? At least some of it.

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TalRussell 5 years, 11 months ago

Ma Comrades, in your sleep tonight try explaining Pindling, Milo and Clearance - how the nation's 4th prime minister now travels with his own personal certified Haitian Creole interpreter at his love-in ready.... ask why not also with a certified head therapist? { There's no making up the preparedness this PM who does prepare everything excepting fulfilling his 2017 general election commitments made to the 91,409 voting red shirts on 10th May 2017 }.

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birdiestrachan 5 years, 11 months ago

While doc assures the shanty town dwellers of his love and commitment and his plans for them he forgets Ragged Island and the people of Pinders point. Who claims BORCO affects their health BORCO is a storage facility What he has done for Grand Bahama is give his blessings to a refinery.

I can not lie. i say it is all very good for Grand Bahama. I am always laughing at the peoples time voters. good for them very good indeed.

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bogart 5 years, 11 months ago

The trajectory is quite obvious to the many pore and many Bahamian some 90% who cannot afford to hire any help. Given some 12 million pop. Haitians nation some 30 miles from our southern border, low cost expenses living in cheapest Bahamian housing and sub let further for extra income, free Bahamian schooling, lack of arresting wealthy persons hiring illegals, lack of charging Bahamian homeowners from sheltering illegals, advisories to the Bahamian Banks to go easy on account holders who cannot provide legal requirements on account holders when banks are following Bahamian enacted laws of the Bshamian Commonwealth, non prosecution of illegally built shantyhomes, and the annual sending back to Haiti of some 58 million and who knows how much undocumented funds..?lack of support by Haitian govt to deter.....lack of any public sign there is a Hatian Ambassador..clear support of groups operating in the Bahamas adding insult to sovereignity of the Bahamas ...bearing another nation name 'Haitian'...church or something clearly aiding and abbetting this open colonisation of the Bahamas.....these encouragements are saying WELCOME....OPEN INVITATION...

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DDK 5 years, 11 months ago

Although I understand the concept and merit of Aegeaon's "Love Thy Brother" statement, your comments are absolutely right on.

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TalRussell 5 years, 11 months ago

Ma Comrades, I don't recall the PM telling the 91,409 voting 35 red shirts candidates that he wanted them to know how that he had no intention being "close da ZOE" to them after 10th May 2017.... PM should go ask his traveling sidekick interpreter the meaning what I just posted? { No making up, had the contender for nation's PM's job - delivered his "Love-in" speech before 10th May 2017, Comrade Perry Christie still be sitting behind desk up in PMO }.

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TheMadHatter 5 years, 11 months ago

Where are the union leaders? Waiting for Senate seats?

Why don't they shut this country down for a week? The first week of every month?

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ohdrap4 5 years, 11 months ago

haitian bahamians do assimilate, through their better looking slim girls.

they marry and get bahamian surnames and never cease to use them.

from then on, their heritage can only be detected when they attend weddings in a purple and orange dress and rhinestone shoes.

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ThisIsOurs 5 years, 11 months ago

I've come to the realization that the answers are simple. Simple once you determine what the goals are. Did we want a cabinet member who would oversee the transformation of a critical govt ministry or did we want someone with a title that we could put on parade in Haitian communities and say see, I for you, vote for me. It's only left to determine why put Johnson to head Finance? Why put Shane in charge of the hurricane relief fund?

Campaign mode. With no plans and the wrong people at the top in Finance, there will be more of this sideshow for the next four years: Lots of uncoordinated, non-prioritized "good" things being done to give the appearance of getting things done. No concept of whether the best things, most impactful or critical items are being addressed or if they're being done in the right order. Is there any wonder that we've been swinging from crisis to crisis with Dr Minnis constantly saying, "which one you want me work on"? Imagine, with hurricane season two weeks away, they just found their way to Ragged Island to do an "assessment", adding insult to injury, this was only after publicized complaints from the Ragged Island Association. But "good things" Eastern Road and Culbert's Hill paving is complete. #nopriorities #nocordination #campaignspendingmodel

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sheeprunner12 5 years, 11 months ago

To quote Mudda-take-sic:

If Hubert Minnis, Brent Symonette and Frankie Campbell have their way, we know exactly what we are going to look like in less than two decades - LIKE HAITI. And that's precisely what the super wealthy global elitist establishment behind the IMF, IDB, OECD & WTO want us to become - just like Haiti - so that their own corporate constituents can then swoop in for the kill and pick our carcass clean, thereby leaving all Bahamians impoverished and groveling forevermore.

I concur

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Aegeaon 5 years, 11 months ago

I doubt that. We as Bahamians destroyed our banking industry and putting the rest of the country at risk because of poor decisions.

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Seaman 5 years, 11 months ago

It's safe to say that this FNM is one and done. They have no people to people skills. Here in North Abaco, Local Governments gets little or no help from anybody. I'm told that all 5 members in Green Turtle Cay are going to resign,due to the lack of interest by their MP and the MP for Local Government. I'm also told that the flies and mosquitos are as bad as the days of Moses, yet they ask for stuff to spray with.......but get no answers from no one.
Keep in mind that the FNMs in Green Turtle Cay raised over $7000.00 for their MP. That money was used to open HQs in other constituencies. I think they get swing...... What say you Mr Tal?

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TheMadHatter 5 years, 11 months ago

...and NOW just today, those insane statements have caused another Haitian sloop to land in Eleuthera with over 100 invading soldiers on board.

We keep telling the "Come. Take our country from us." And they respond in kind.

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Seaman 5 years, 11 months ago

Good People, Can someone tell me who's ass has to be kiss in order to get a General Shop license? I have a friend in North Abaco, who has been trying to get a General shop license for over three years now, to no avail. Every time they check on it ..they are given the run around. This is sad....they have asked their MP for help but to no avail. Either he is powerless to help or does not care. Is this not a God given right as a Bahamian to be granted a license if everything is in order. By the way this person is a FNM General...who is being treated like shit by the PLP Island Administrator.

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sheeprunner12 5 years, 11 months ago

Ah bulla .......... it is easy to get bitter ...... but the PLP is NO alternative.

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SP 5 years, 11 months ago

@ Aegeon......Wake up, stop talking bull-shyt, and face the facts. Haitians run an entirely separate and parallel economy, engage in everything illegal, run circles around RBPF and RBDF, ignore our laws, and take away the names and birthright of Bahamians and you jackass's standing around talking dumb shyt bout "we sound hateful"?

When the hell will you fools grow some balls and stand up for Bahamians and the Bahamas? What other country allows an invading neighbor to get away this sort of nonsense? The Dominicans had to take an unpopular stand against these disgusting Haitian invaders to protect their country, why the hell can't we find the balls do the same?

Maybe AFTER the FNM tell us again we better learn Creole and we have ANOTHER Haitian prime minister and a full slate of Haitian candidates you idiots might wake up!

It will be way to late by then to try saving our country for future generations of Bahamians.

You fools better wake up!!

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Aegeaon 5 years, 11 months ago

I won't ever change. I'm one of you people, but I wanted to absolve this issue without humiliation, without bloodshed. There's a time of reason and a time for battle. No matter how upset you are, reason will prevail if we decide to do so. Nothing else matters.

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joeblow 5 years, 11 months ago

Maybe Haitians should consider showing some love for this country by first obeying it laws (ie. stop coming, staying and working illegally . Bahamians should slow some love for this country by not accepting bribes and compromising our nations interests so willingly.

It would be great if this PM would show some love for this country and the Bahamian people and start keeping his word. Whatever happened to his December 2017 deadline?

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stillwaters 5 years, 11 months ago

So, Minnis is crying again......for Haitians this time.

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John 5 years, 11 months ago

If you study the history of Haitians in this country, most of them came here originally as farm workers, or were otherwise employed at Lyford Cay or they worked for private residences where they were giving living quarters. As the farms disappeared and Lyford Cay started hiring Filipinos many of the Haitians found themselves having to find alternative jobs and alternative housing..and now thus..the large number of shantytowns and persons of Haitian parentage with no status.

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TalRussell 5 years, 11 months ago

Ma comrades, I wish likewise stories like this were being written about the lost love- in demonstrated by the prime minister for the 91,409 voting red shirts 10th May 2017. We need more positive stories about helping the good but forgotten peoples of Inagua Islands and Grand Bahamalanders, with offering solutions to their many economical, social and fair treatment struggles.... Does it not bother PM that many out islanders are forced pack dead bodies their loved-ones in overnight ice... Unfortunately, many the forgotten out islanders don't even have the electricity required turn on their fridges freezers.

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Emac 5 years, 11 months ago

The only time I hear these politicians say anything even remotely positve about Bahamians is during election season. After that, they put all of their energies into investing in foreigners! Bahamians are looked upon as soft and easy to run over by both politicians and the Haitian community. This is exactly why we are this mess. Nothing will happen without an uprising. While I am not trying to promote violence, it seems that only when something radical happens is when people who should be looking out for Bahamians tend to listen.

Oh, and Aegeaon CYBC!

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Aegeaon 5 years, 11 months ago

Really? I can still see that Bahamians want more of this country, but violence and public humiliation and turning Haitians into basically Palestinians will only ruin our country further.

No one financially trusts us anymore, but reconstructing the case of Modern-day Israel in the Bahamas will further put us at dire straits. Except that we're not like Israel. When we start killing them or humiliating them in public television, we will gain NOTHING...

Nothing but the destruction of tourism, the destruction of friendship with other nations, the destruction of your economy and the rest of our country. We'll have nothing but making cocaine and other drugs for the drug cartels and terrorists. That will be your ultimate punishment for doing the wrong thing.

What I'm trying to say, you stoop to the lowest level of morality, expect Karma in return. I ask for everyone to be humble and kind.

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joeblow 5 years, 11 months ago

I am convinced that you are mentally unwell!!

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Cas0072 5 years, 11 months ago

What violence? What public humiliation? Once again you illegal immigrant enablers encourage this victim mentality amongst Haitians which is probably one other reason why they don't try to do better. The only group they can be reasonably compared to are the Haitians doing the same thing in the DR and TCI. No one forces them to live in shanty towns and if Bahamian landlords will accept the pittance they pay in "rent", I am quite sure they would be even more willing to accept rent at market value. They came for a better life they say. It is a shame that fire has to be put under them to do just that.

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Malcolm60 5 years, 11 months ago

I am really taken aback by the poor characterization of Haitians in this forum. Why all the caustic remarks? The Prime minister of The Bahamas is simply trying to mend fences and to show solidarity to his people from the region. Haitians are hard-working people who have contributed much to the Bahamian economy. I have been to the Bahamas and did not have a pleasant experience over there. Apart from one young lady and her friend who treated me well after what I was going through in Nassau, there is hardly anything positive to write pleasantly about this place.

First, to begin with, you lot Bahamians refuse to acknowledge the fact that you are in the Caribbean or West Indies. You look down on the rest of the Caribbean/West Indies and that includes Haiti. We are all Caribbean/West Indian people and should reach out to each other regardless.I spent nearly two weeks in the Bahamas and I had a torrid time and could not wait to get back to Europe. I promise never to return to the Bahamas after what I went through over there. This was back in the late 90's and I have since changed my mind. I don't think it is fair to lump everyone together nor is it ok to tar everybody with the same brush. There are good and bad people everywhere. The Bahamas and Haiti are both Caribbean/West Indian nations and both it's peoples should be treated with respect and dignity. I have lived in Haiti and St Lucia as both my parents are from these two beautiful Caribbean isles. I was brought up in Europe and I am eternally grateful for that. I love both islands and have lived in both when I was younger. (Mum-St Lucian, Dad-Haitian) Haitians don't just go to the Bahamas for the sake of it. They go there for a better life. If it was the other way round where the Bahamas were in the situation that Haiti now finds itself in,A lot of Bahamians would find themselves in Haiti for a better life. People go where there is employment and better prospects for themselves and their families. The Bahamas should be proud of the fact that the Haitian people have singled them out as the land of milk and honey. This shows that the Bahamas is doing well economically and is an economic powerhouse to be reckoned with.

We have been through so much in Haiti. Starting from Our revolution and independence from the French to the many leaders who have let the country down. Haiti have had to pay reparation to the French and that money could have been used to help offset lots of projects which could have benefitted our splendid isle. As a Haitian-St Lucian, I do my best to help my folks in Haiti. I visit there frequently and help in any way I can. I help organize visas for our people to come to study in Europe. Give to the poor. Give to Schools. The list is endless. I see it as my duty as a citizen of Haiti and The Caribbean to help whenever possible. My people need the help. I am also working on a project to spread the Kweyol language throughout islands in the Caribbean where it's not being spoken.

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bogart 5 years, 11 months ago

Yinna missing da point.....Bahamians and Haitians are not the same....we are two different soveriein nations ....yes we may be black ....but we aint da same. We pledge our Alliegance to the Commonwealth of the Bahamas.

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Emac 5 years, 11 months ago

@Malcolm60-Please stop this mambo jumbo bullshit. You say, "First, to begin with, you lot Bahamians refuse to acknowledge the fact that you are in the Caribbean or West Indies".

First of all the Bahamas is NOT a part of the Caribbean or West Indies, at least not geographically. Culturally yes. But what does that have to do with us speaking out against illegal Haitians who invade our shores by the hundreds each year, having scores of children that they cannot afford and turn around and the demand that these children have access to free schooling, medical care and citizenship. Further, hey build these makeshift shacks all over the place, endangering the lives of other residents who are struggling financially just to live in safe, hazard free environment. Then on top of these, they cry foul when the government tells them that they have to remove these shacks-To add insult to injury, they insist that it is the government's responsibility to find replacement housing for them, while the average Bahamian have to struggle to meet mortgage payments along with other bills. These are the same people who send back millions of dollars each year to Haiti!

You people really take Bahamian people for asses! So Malcolm, take your sob story and get real. Oh and you too can CYBC!

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sheeprunner12 5 years, 11 months ago

I agree Emac ......... There is NOTHING that Haitians and Bahamians have in common .......... Not even in their ethnic backgrounds in Africa .... Two different tribal groups from two different and distinct West African regions.

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Malcolm60 5 years, 11 months ago

You are writing utter bunk and balderdash. To even suggest that The Bahamas is not in the West Indies or the Caribbean displays your level of arrogance. You are pretty bombastic in your summary of the region. Your claim that the Bahamas is not in the Caribbean is nothing but "hyperbole" What do you and the many ill-informed Bahamians have against the Caribbean/West Indies? You lot are no better than the rest of the Caribbean. The Bahamas is part of the Caribbean geographically and like you said culturally whether you like it or not.

You see the British and the other colonials have fooled you lot people from the Bahamas into believing that you are better than the rest of us in the Caribbean. The Bahamas is in the northern Caribbean and is a member of CARICOM. We are all Caribbean people and should treat each other with respect and dignity. The Haitians are hard working people who contribute heavily to the Bahamian economy. They pay their taxes like everyone else which help to kick the vital services going. I can only concur that the reason why Bahamians keep saying that they are not in the Caribbean is simply too big up themselves and to look down on Caribbean people. The treatment that is being meted out to the Haitians is disgraceful and shameful. The Bahamas has very little people living in the many isles and should be grateful for the input of Haitians populating it's shores. The British used to say that they are not in Europe geographically- Now they cannot say this as there is a tunnel that links the UK to mainland Europe. England is in Europe now by virtue of the Mersey tunnel. You lot ought to be ashamed of yourselves for treating your fellow man in the awful way that you are currently doing. Haitians are good people and they should be given the respect they rightfully deserve. We are all equal under the sun. Unity is strength and together we achieve and together we aspire.

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Cas0072 5 years, 11 months ago

The St. Lucian/Haitian talking about utter bunk, balderdash and you lot? You sound more preoccupied with British pretentiousness than any Bahamian I know. The problem with telling lies is that eventually you believe them. You first need to see past your arrogant condescending tirade of lies before you can make any valuable input into this discussion.

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Malcolm60 5 years, 11 months ago

If anyone is preoccupied with telling lies bunk and balderdash it's you. Why don't you address the facts before you blow your own pathetic little trumpet? Haitians are hard-working people. They work harder than the average Bahamian who sits idly by and do Jack Diddles all day. When we Haitians come over to work we work hard so we can support our people back home. There is plenty of work in the Bahamas but the average Bahamian is not prepared to work. You lot should be grateful that your Caribbean cousins, the Haitians are willing to do the work that you don't want to do. They pay taxes on top of that to help keep vital services going in the Bahamas. Although I am British I never see myself as British but rather a Caribbean man from Haiti and St Lucia respectively. I will never neglect my people in the Caribbean and will go out of my way to help them whenever possible. The Greatest man who ever lived on this earth once said 'Whatsoever you do to the least of my brother/sisters that you do unto to me. How can you call yourself a Christian country yet you do not have much love in your hearts for your fellow man? Christianity is about loving, caring, sharing and helping your fellow man/woman. That is NOT too much to ask. Afterall we are one people in the Caribbean. Viva Haiti!

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joeblow 5 years, 10 months ago

Who is this dolt, spewing the myopic, unreasoned propaganda of those foreigners who love the benefits of this country, but hate its people?

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sheeprunner12 5 years, 11 months ago

Malcolm60 .......... You are heading down a very slippery slope ....... You should quit while you are ahead.

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Cas0072 5 years, 11 months ago

@Malcolm60 It is clear that you know nothing about The Bahamas or Bahamian society, only the washed up talking points that are used to justify illegal immigration the world over. Because the elites hire your people at basement prices while they live in the slums, and feed their egos by telling them they work harder than Bahamians, does not make it fact. Have you done any comparison to show that illegal immigrants benefit the Bahamas more than they benefit? Fill the islands up with people and that is beneficial in and of itself? You have no idea, only your biased opinion to guide your simple comments. Stop trying to sound intelligent with this British drivel when it is clear that you can't even comprehend the difference between facts and opinions.

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